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I have Windows XP installed on a virtual machine. I have an antique printer, with antique drivers, that will not work on the 64 bit version of Windows 10 I have installed on the host computer.The VM keeps giving me a pop-up that I have 20+ days left to activate windows. The VM does have internet access, buy when I try to activate XP on-line, it tells me that it cannot connect to the server. Then it brings me to an activate by phone window,but the phone number listed goes to 'Janice's Voice Testing' or something like that. It's just a recording that plays a loud beep, and then ends the call.So what do I do about activating this copy of XP on my virtual machine? I tried that phone number again, and sometimes it does go to MS automated activation, but about a third of the time I still get 'Janice's Voice Testing'So I have tried 5 times now to enter my product number (that really long one on the blue activation screen) and I keep being told that it is not a valid product number.
I've keyed in the numbers, and read them to the recorded man.I know it's a real copy of Windows XP, I still have the disk! This is getting very frustrating. I do have a Win95 disk, I'm thinking of setting up another VM with that instead.
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Originally posted by WiseWeasel:Or what's more likely is that they'll just kill the Win 7 activation once Win 9 or 10 is out, and force people to upgrade that way. I'm sure we'll have the pleasure of seeing the trap shut before the apocalypse, if you pay attention.I find your paranoia to be amusing, considering that they haven't even ended official tech support for WinXP yet after trying to do for years and being forced to push it back again and again. MS provides the operating systems which run on 95% of the world's computers, only the most committed Apple or Linux fanboy would think that at this MS can ever kill activation of anything, since their software is essential to the functioning of human civilizations. World governments would react with hostile actions if MS ever tried to end activations of WinXP, much less Vista, much less Win7.edit: I just realized I'm trying to have an argument with the dumbshit who made the first post. Forget it, go fuck yourself.
Originally posted by WiseWeasel:Or what's more likely is that they'll just kill the Win 7 activation once Win 9 or 10 is out, and force people to upgrade that way. I'm sure we'll have the pleasure of seeing the trap shut before the apocalypse, if you pay attention.Man, do people come up with silly arguments to bash MS. As far as I know, activation is done once except under certain conditions such as major hardware change. Since I don't think there is any time-limit clause in the Windows EULA, MS couldn't 'kill' existing activated installations without breaching its own license agreement.Is there any reason for you to bring this up?
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Sure, MS can kill ongoing support for old OS's, but you can still use your Windows 3.1 if you want. And XP, which also has activation and is on the path to no longer being supported. MS can and likely will produce a new build of windows, blacklist the keys (and all child keys), update the code and then re-release to manufacturing.
Lenevo will also likely be penalized for the leak. Windows 7 is not availible public or OEM as of yet, and as such the OEMs can simply 'deal with it'.
As for everyone else who is going to use the key, just don't apply any updates, your computer may be crippled.Regardless of any actions, there is no such thing as 100% security, and it will just be time until the next method comes out. I'm just thankful that MS has started doing things such as family pricing to make the costs somewhat reasonable. Originally posted by WiseWeasel:Oh, MS, your OS seems to be broken by design. FTFY!Are you fucking retarded? Are you genuinely fucking retarded?
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I’m so glad you got the first post so the dumbest fucking thing I’ve read in a long time can be the bannerstone for this discussion.The original comment sounds like someone who'd brag about being an elite hacker for having guessed someone's password.I don't think anyone should get excited, the key will be blacklisted since no one is using it. Vendors will have to deal with it-some may even face criminal investigations.Will other keys leak? It's a never-ending cat and mouse game. I've been playing around with the activation, For some reason with what I have done, when I go to system check(right mouse computer and hit properties), under Windows activation I now get the message:Status not available:Product Id not availableThe farthest I went before was to rearm and I had 27 days left to activate.As it now stands under normal conditions I have no way to activate or change my key. Anyone else have this same thing happen, and can give me some insite as to what might happen if I leave things the way they are.
@Daemonios: It's a purely ideological and philosophical matter for me, though others may feel more strongly about it. When a company sells me some software, I expect to be able to use that version they sold me for perpetuity, regardless of what happens to the vendor. Serial numbers locally checked, I'm fine with, as they're completely contained on the computer you're installing on, but product activation is another matter, as that is dependent on the continued investment in activation services by the vendor.
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Note that no other OS distribution ships with an activation system, and seeing as how the OS is fundamental to the computer's operation, that is a somewhat critical distinction for Windows. Basically, Windows OEMs are unwillingly selling hardware with an artificial shelf life determined by the OS supplier.As for activation being a one-time thing, that's ultimately not the case for a portion of the userbase.
As you swap hardware, activation status is reset, and switching to a new computer likewise requires a new activation.As a consumer, none of this is likely to really affect me, but if I'm setting up some infrastructure critical for the operation of my company, activation should certainly give me pause.In any case, I'm thrilled my first comment was able to get such a vehement reaction from those DRM fanboys among us. 3-pointer, nothing but net. View image here. Originally posted by DiscoStu:They could eliminate a ton of piracy by charging a fair price for Windows 7.
If they charged like $25 a copy they'd be getting $25 a person for millions of people who would otherwise not give MS.01.The far east is always going to pirate no matter what MS charges but Microsoft is making a big mistake with their current high prices. And enough with the 50 versions of Vista. Do home and business editions and be done with it. Cheapness is only one of many reasons why people pirate MS software.Btw, this hack is like nothing new. I've seen the Vista BIOS hack that uses GRUB to modify the bootloader and bam, activated. (I have a legal copy of Vista Premium Retail, but since I heard they might only allow 10 activations period, why waste them?)Unfortunately, I updated the DMI part of my BIOS and that permanently screwed it up, and it said I had to reinstall Vista.I'll just use a cheap upgrade license since they aren't charging much, but it is nice to have for those situations where stuff won't activate for stupid reasons.This comment was edited by sprockkets on July 29, 2009 22:47. Originally posted by DiscoStu:They could eliminate a ton of piracy by charging a fair price for Windows 7.
If they charged like $25 a copy they'd be getting $25 a person for millions of people who would otherwise not give MS.01.The far east is always going to pirate no matter what MS charges but Microsoft is making a big mistake with their current high prices. And enough with the 50 versions of Vista. Do home and business editions and be done with it.
Cheapness is only one of many reasons why people pirate MS software.People won't pay for it even if it was $1.Yeah they would, $1 is such a tiny fraction of the machine cost it'd definitely be worth having a legitimate copy of the OS - even in the developing world. Its still undoubtedly a fair bit of hassle to make sure the cracked version doesn't have any rootkits and deal with any problems caused by having an illegitimate licence. I think up to $5-10 would be OK, but more than that is too expensive.If it was only that price you'd also find that developing world governments would probably take copyright law more seriously as they could afford it themselves, then their police would be able to use it as an excuse to collect bribes etc. Etc.The problem with only charging $10 is there aren't enough potential customers at $5/copy to make up for not selling it in the first world countries for $50-$100/copy and its a big risk because it might not happen like I think it would. Originally posted by Lemurs:Again, I'm curious to see a technical explanation based on facts and engineering about why this isn't just business as usual.?Ok, here is a slightly more technical explanation of the Vista (and now we know Windows 7) activation.For Vista, a certificate is stored in C:WindowsServiceProfilesNetworkServiceAppDataRoamingMicrosoftSoftwareLicensingtokens.dat that contains your activation information that matches up with the current product key and your hardware ID. What this hack does is forge the certificate to match up with an OEM key that it creates on the fly.
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This is why Windows is able to be activated offline. Normally you would need to connect to Microsoft who would then take your hardware ID and product key and then generate a certificate for you. Note that once activated you need only to copy the tokens.dat file to a disk, reinstall Windows with your product key, boot into safe mode after installation, delete your current tokens.dat file, copy your old tokens.dat to the same directory, and finally boot back into normal Windows to offline activate the hackless way (but it must be on the same basic hardware-mainly CPU, memory, & motherboard-as when you first activated).So this hack allows you to have a valid certificate that correctly reflects your hardware ID and the current product key. Remember that you can add or remove certain hardware pieces and still not have to activate Windows again. Microsoft has to make allowances for some hardware changes without having to reactivate Windows, so your hardware ID is allowed to be slightly different without screwing up the formula that was originally used with your product key to generate the certificate.
Originally posted by tuxplorer:Can MS not simply give a new image with a new master key to Lenovo and block this one and its 'children' via WGA updates and service packs?Maybe. Correcting this with a service pack would be the most likely way. Otherwise Microsoft would have to redo their code for the activation process on the Windows image AND their server side, but it's too close to actual release to mess around with all of that.
Microsoft needs sufficient time to test any new activation methods, then reprint all the millions of Windows DVDs, and finally distribute them to the world. Dave pelz reddit. Three months is not enough time to properly do something like that. Correcting this with a service pack would be the most likely way.
Otherwise Microsoft would have to redo their code for the activation process on the Windows image AND their server side, but it's too close to actual release to mess around with all of that. Microsoft needs sufficient time to test any new activation methods, then reprint all the millions of Windows DVDs, and finally distribute them to the world. Three months is not enough time to properly do something like that.Well except this is the O-E-M key and shouldn't be part of the retail chain anyway. Originally posted by DiscoStu:They could eliminate a ton of piracy by charging a fair price for Windows 7. If they charged like $25 a copy they'd be getting $25 a person for millions of people who would otherwise not give MS.01.The far east is always going to pirate no matter what MS charges but Microsoft is making a big mistake with their current high prices.
And enough with the 50 versions of Vista. Do home and business editions and be done with it. Cheapness is only one of many reasons why people pirate MS software.People won't pay for it even if it was $1.Yeah they would, $1 is such a tiny fraction of the machine cost it'd definitely be worth having a legitimate copy of the OS - even in the developing world. Its still undoubtedly a fair bit of hassle to make sure the cracked version doesn't have any rootkits and deal with any problems caused by having an illegitimate licence. I think up to $5-10 would be OK, but more than that is too expensive.If it was only that price you'd also find that developing world governments would probably take copyright law more seriously as they could afford it themselves, then their police would be able to use it as an excuse to collect bribes etc. Etc.The problem with only charging $10 is there aren't enough potential customers at $5/copy to make up for not selling it in the first world countries for $50-$100/copy and its a big risk because it might not happen like I think it would.I corrected my post, but those who pirate Windows will pirate windows, period. Some could pay $1 for a song, but since they can get it for free, they will, and do.Now, I would pay $1 for it.
But I doubt it will stop those from pirating, if music is any indication. Originally posted by Lemurs:Again, I'm curious to see a technical explanation based on facts and engineering about why this isn't just business as usual.?Ok, here is a slightly more technical explanation of the Vista (and now we know Windows 7) activation.For Vista, a certificate is stored in C:WindowsServiceProfilesNetworkServiceAppDataRoamingMicrosoftSoftwareLicensingtokens.dat that contains your activation information that matches up with the current product key and your hardware ID. What this hack does is forge the certificate to match up with an OEM key that it creates on the fly. This is why Windows is able to be activated offline. Normally you would need to connect to Microsoft who would then take your hardware ID and product key and then generate a certificate for you.
Note that once activated you need only to copy the tokens.dat file to a disk, reinstall Windows with your product key, boot into safe mode after installation, delete your current tokens.dat file, copy your old tokens.dat to the same directory, and finally boot back into normal Windows to offline activate the hackless way (but it must be on the same basic hardware-mainly CPU, memory, & motherboard-as when you first activated).So this hack allows you to have a valid certificate that correctly reflects your hardware ID and the current product key. Remember that you can add or remove certain hardware pieces and still not have to activate Windows again. Microsoft has to make allowances for some hardware changes without having to reactivate Windows, so your hardware ID is allowed to be slightly different without screwing up the formula that was originally used with your product key to generate the certificate.
Originally posted by tuxplorer:Can MS not simply give a new image with a new master key to Lenovo and block this one and its 'children' via WGA updates and service packs?Maybe. Correcting this with a service pack would be the most likely way.
Otherwise Microsoft would have to redo their code for the activation process on the Windows image AND their server side, but it's too close to actual release to mess around with all of that. Microsoft needs sufficient time to test any new activation methods, then reprint all the millions of Windows DVDs, and finally distribute them to the world. Three months is not enough time to properly do something like that.I know XP did this, but they added a unique installation ID as well, so that a new install of XP would require a new activation as well. Maybe not on Vista, but that's what I remember. Originally posted by srs:ummm.
The article misses one key point in that you have to hack your bios if you want to activate.Nope, that can be easily emulated/simulated. But if this is the exact same hack as was used with Vista, where is the news?
With Vista, people just needed access to a major OEM PC (Dell/HP/Lenovo) so that they could copy the generic certificate from the BIOS of the motherboard. Then a special driver was used to redirect Vista's request to the BIOS certificate to the file.
Then you just needed to use the offline activating product key from the OEM PC. You basically have your PC pretend to be an OEM PC.For instance, all Vista/XP installations of a certain version (Pro/Ultimate/Home/etc) from the Dell factory will have the same product key installed. This will not be the same product key on the side of the Dell PC, but you could use that one. When you use the Dell Windows installation media you don't need to enter a product key or activate because it checks the certificate in the BIOS and then uses the product key stamped onto the CD/DVD. (You could buy a Dell with XP Home, then use the Dell Vista Ultimate install DVD, and you won't need a product key or to activate because the PC/media has no idea what you purchased.)So, how is this different and why is it news?
Originally posted by Straight-line:Correcting this with a service pack would be the most likely way. Otherwise Microsoft would have to redo their code for the activation process on the Windows image AND their server side, but it's too close to actual release to mess around with all of that. Microsoft needs sufficient time to test any new activation methods, then reprint all the millions of Windows DVDs, and finally distribute them to the world. Three months is not enough time to properly do something like that.Why wait for a service pack? Just have it as a critical update on windows update, maybe as part of an update to WU itself so people can't simply block it. These risks can seriously harm or permanently destroy data and often expose users to identity theft and other criminal schemesTrue story, I had to install a language pack on two machines running vista ultimate x64 for someone yesterday, and one of them had a pirated version (home use) while the other (office) had a genuine operating system.
The thing is I couldn't help but grin with satisfaction when the installation of the language pack (via windows update mind you) on the pirated version went without a hitch while on the other I got a continuous loop of errors when trying to update. And by continuous loop I mean the language pack was not listed any more on the extras update list, when trying to go to regional and language options I got a message saying I need to restart in order for the changes to take effect (and of course restarting did nothing) and to top it off I downloaded the package separately from the internet, double click and, guess what, nothing. Ain't windows fun?:PSo to conclude, no, having a pirated version does not expose you to anything (given that you don't take just any version out there regardless if other people tried it or not), the thing you'll miss (or not:P) is calling microsoft for help; but if you managed to find and install a windows version all by yourself, then chances are you don't really need them that often.This comment was edited by Costel on July 29, 2009 23:15. The real story here is that MS has NOT changed their Royalty OEM licensing system despite all their attempts to claim that things would be different.If Vista taught them anything, it should have been that the BIOS cannot be used as a dongle. It's simply far too easy to reflash the BIOS code to masquerade as a licensed OEM machine. While it's hard to detect a reflashed BIOS remotely, MS hasn't even bothered to try to defeat the various 'loader' methods based on inserting a fake SLIC through the MBR software.The OEM protection for Win7 appears to be almost exactly the same as that for Vista, which has been comprehensively cracked for 2 years. The client-side certificates used for Vista still work for Win7, which means that very little has changed in their underlying encryption code.Yes, this key will be blacklisted, and once the WGA servers work for Win7 they'll send a killswitch to installations that use it.
There's more than enough time for MS to issue a new key and have Lenovo prepare and install a new image. But other Royalty OEM keys will leak, just like they did for Vista, and in fact they may already have done so.When Vista came out, pirates were at a loss as MS had managed to kill the central VLK flaw in their licensing method. For quite a while after launch pirating Vista meant using half-assed methods like swapping in files from the betas or re-arming, both of which revealed their nature to the customer and made commercial piracy difficult.
Over time, the Royalty OEM flaw became apparent and was chased down, and refined pirate installations were developed that appeared indistinguishable from the real thing, both to the customer and to MS. It was clear that Royalty OEM licensing that relied on a BIOS SLIC table was thoroughly broken.So, they've had a few years, they know that the old methods don't work, does MS take things up a notch and change the way they validate OEM installs like the way they changed VLK from XP?
Not a chance, they use exactly the same system. Right now I can only think that MS are either stupid and/or lazy.The ones who are really hurt by this are small independent outfits who want to stay legal and sell a customised computer with a legal OS. Their competitors will be laughing and merrily reflashing the BIOS on their motherboards to comply with readily-available certificates and their customers will probably never probe deep enough to wonder why their BIOS claims they're running a different brand.
MS will continue to rake in their profits from the big-name vendors that have to be legal, but they'll mount a couple of stings on smaller outfits where they can afford physical access just to show they really care (awwww).But in the end, the facts will remain the same: small 'whitebox' OEMs who want to provide a legal OS will have to charge around $100 more than those willing to break the rules. And what the odds of MS ever going out of business?
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The only realistic scenario I can think of where MS goes out of business is the end of human civilization, and quite frankly if the zombie apocalypse really did occur you would have more important things to worry about than whether you can activate your copy of Vista or Win7 or not.They wouldn't go out of business even with a zombie apocalypse, because those zombies aren't just shopping for braaainsssss but also for Excel and Word. And zombies make terrible hackers, what with the fingers always falling off.In fact, Microsoft might just hit new financial heights when the undead rule the Earth. 'A computer running windows on every desktop and tombstone' is a muchly expanded marketplace.
Hardware dongle? You just took first place for the most retarded comment in this thread. You beat the first post. Eat shit.Dunlavy, you are a troll's dream come true. View image here: -On a serious note though, does anybody actually include a copy of Windows when adding up the cost for their new build? I try to, but it's usually an afterthought, like, 'oh, and another $150 or so for a license on top of all that.'
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Just curious. Originally posted by Crushit:I've been playing around with the activation, For some reason with what I have done, when I go to system check(right mouse computer and hit properties), under Windows activation I now get the message:Status not available:Product Id not availableThe farthest I went before was to rearm and I had 27 days left to activate.As it now stands under normal conditions I have no way to activate or change my key. Anyone else have this same thing happen, and can give me some insite as to what might happen if I leave things the way they are.Assuming your copy of Windows is legitimate, you will be able to re-activate it. Either activation will be automatic, or you'll spend 5 minutes on the phone to India. It's quite easy, I've done it before many times.If you leave things the way they are (I believe your copy isn't activated at the moment?) then Windows will get quite annoying soon, if it doesn't stop working altogether.
Originally posted by charleski:The real story here is that MS has NOT changed their Royalty OEM licensing system despite all their attempts to claim that things would be different.If Vista taught them anything, it should have been that the BIOS cannot be used as a dongle. It's simply far too easy to reflash the BIOS code to masquerade as a licensed OEM machine. While it's hard to detect a reflashed BIOS remotely, MS hasn't even bothered to try to defeat the various 'loader' methods based on inserting a fake SLIC through the MBR software.The OEM protection for Win7 appears to be almost exactly the same as that for Vista, which has been comprehensively cracked for 2 years. The client-side certificates used for Vista still work for Win7, which means that very little has changed in their underlying encryption code.
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You don't get it. It's not about a comprehensive block that is unbreakable (indeed, such a thing is likely not even possible, even with TPC in place). It's about making it sufficiently difficult to prevent the casual piracy that was so trivial in the win3.1/win9x days when people would just take a CD to all their friends/families homes to install the OS.It was literally effortless then. Now it at least means that people who want to pirate have to jump through hoops to get there. Some will, but many won't.
Originally posted by GreatScott:This sucks. Now Windows 7 will be widely pirated, and other operating systems will need to compete against a 'free as in beer' OS that has an advantage in backward compatibility.Microsoft really needs to find a better activation method (Internet-activated user-account or hardware dongles come to mind). Assuming that it sees piracy as a problem.
For Microsoft, Windows piracy might simply be an enabler for marketshare or other software.This I guess can largely benefit MS if Windows 7 is widely adopted.As someone else posted, the large number of XP systems can be updated to Windows 7 - are more secure and mature OS. Thereby there are two benefits:1) XP is truly reduced to a legacy OS and replaced by a more advanced OS2) Those looking at alternative OS after the Vista fiasco can come back to the improved Windows 7.
Even with this I still wouldn't trust a downloaded version of Windows 7 given the kind of scum that exist on the internet - never mind the moral arguments some might wish to bring up. My privacy and security are number one before saving a few dollars.I'm giving Snow Leopard a go on my MacBook - and I don't use it for anything relating to my personal information - I don't use it for email, online banking etc.At the end of the day, given that when you consider the price over 2 years - its pretty damn cheap considering what rubbish most people spend on each day that they don't keep a record of - $6 cups of coffee from Starbucks for stance. Originally posted by Crushit:I've been playing around with the activation, For some reason with what I have done, when I go to system check(right mouse computer and hit properties), under Windows activation I now get the message:Status not available:Product Id not availableThe farthest I went before was to rearm and I had 27 days left to activate.As it now stands under normal conditions I have no way to activate or change my key. Anyone else have this same thing happen, and can give me some insite as to what might happen if I leave things the way they are.Assuming your copy of Windows is legitimate, you will be able to re-activate it. Either activation will be automatic, or you'll spend 5 minutes on the phone to India. It's quite easy, I've done it before many times.If you leave things the way they are (I believe your copy isn't activated at the moment?) then Windows will get quite annoying soon, if it doesn't stop working altogether.Thanks for your reply Benjwah, I did a restore point to get me back without doing a reinstall. All things are good, Win7 is now Licenced and activated.
Reminds me of the early xp days when things were fine before servicepack 1, untill MS figured out the algorythm of the keymaker. Originally posted by athauglas:On a serious note though, does anybody actually include a copy of Windows when adding up the cost for their new build? I try to, but it's usually an afterthought, like, 'oh, and another $150 or so for a license on top of all that.'
Just curious.I mostly build PC from the scraps of other upgraded PC. Thus, they are essentially gratis as I would upgrade the other PC anyway, and there is no market for old components worth the bother.So the new old PC then stands in a corner for a while, usually with Ubuntu installed, until I find a pal who is in need of a better rig. I know a lot of unemployed bums, so I have always had a distribution chain for old gear.Now, is it rational for me to pay $150 to fix that PC up with a legit copy of Windows in order to give it away?Do you think that Bum Pal will spend $150 on a free PC when he already has $0 copies of XP lying around?
He can't produce $300 to buy a new PC, which is the reason why he gets mine.How much is a product worth? As much as the customer is willing to pay. In this case, I might have put a legit copy of XP on it if it cost say $25. XP is old and soon surpassed by TWO generations of Windows, so it would not be unreasonable to sell it cheap.But that would sweep away the market for Win7 - as in reality it offers nothing new for ordinary people that would warrant the $25→$150 price increase.
And MS knows that, so they stop selling XP instead. You want to use XP, you break the law. Originally posted by Metasyntactic:It's not about a comprehensive block that is unbreakable. It's about making it sufficiently difficult to prevent the casual piracy that was so trivial in the win3.1/win9x days I believe you're mistaken. I can take the copy of Win7 I downloaded two days ago over to a friends place, install it, and then google/download/crack the install in about five minutes.
No sweat.MS is more targeting the commercial pirates (as they should). They're trying to stop you from buying a computer with what you think is a legitimate copy of Windows. Considering I was able to download a copy of Vista in 2007, fully pre-activated with access to all updates, with service packs installing fine, I'd say they failed. I'm surprised they're using basically the same activation methods with Win7.I'd say that as long as you are conscious of the fact your copy is illigitimate, MS's activation has done its job. Considering how easy it is to silently bypass activation, there'll be lots of unscupulous vendors selling illigitimate copies - Windows Activation has failed, again.
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